there is no gotcha ads. there was a statement that said that thprogram we were attempting to cut was a program that could create or has created 185,000 jobs. and i would say to the gentleman nine of his members voted with us on that vote. i would ask the gentleman did those nine members voted to kill 185,000 jobs the way in his statement that he implied that's what the republicans intended to do? mr. hoyer: members don't believe this is a real vote. we are cognizant of why it's being done. but the 185,000 jobs clearly, those nine members that you referenced did not vote to eliminate 185,000 jobs. but all your members did. and the reason the difference is because you aren't going to run ads against your members. the fact of the matter is, if you want to do real things to create real jobs, we're prepared to work with you. we believe the program you want todd eliminate does in fact score at creating 185,000 jobs. you call it welfare. we call it work. we think it was an appropriate expenditure. as the gentleman